All eyes are on Carson Palmer's inflamed right throwing elbow, and
his presence in the game Sunday at the Jets would help the Bengals take
advantage of a New York weakness -- its pass defense.
The Jets are 31st in the NFL in pass defense at 265 yards a game, in
spite of an improved pass rush.
The Bengals are 0-5 heading back to the Meadowlands for the second
time in a span of three weeks. They lost there to the Giants, 26-23, in
overtime Sept. 21.
Palmer said Wednesday that he knew the limitations of his throwing
arm Sunday at Dallas, realizing he didn't have the confidence to throw
some of the deeper, harder passes he normally would because of the
injury to his throwing elbow.
He was asked Wednesday at his weekly news conference whether the
inflamed elbow affected any of his passes or decisions in the pocket.
"No. There were a couple times where I didn't have the confidence I
normally have, just because my arm's not the same as previous to the
injury," Palmer said. "But as far as throwing balls, I felt like I
missed a couple I shouldn't have missed, but the only thing I noticed
was just a little less confidence in throwing some. I saw holes in
certain spots that I kind of held back on and moved on to the next guy."
Palmer said his elbow "came through as expected" and that he hopes to
play Sunday at the Jets.
Palmer is approaching this week just like the last -- by throwing as
little as possible, resting as much as he can, and awaiting a doctor's
decision closer to the game.
Coach Marvin Lewis on Monday said Palmer made good decisions not to
force the ball into coverage and that the Cowboys secondary did a good
job of giving cornerbacks help from safeties.
Palmer agreed.
"Balls I normally zip right by somebody, I felt maybe there's a
chance they get their hands on it or make a play on it," Palmer said.
"Just pulled some of those down and moved on."
Palmer rebounded from a poor first half at Dallas, where he was
7-for-17 passing for 62 yards and one interception. In the second half,
he was 16-for-22 passing for 155 yards and two touchdowns.
Was offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski's play-calling affected by
Palmer's elbow ailment?
"I know Brat was definitely conscious of it," Palmer said. "He knew
the situation, what was going on. We talked. There weren't a ton of
opportunities where we wanted to be sitting in the pocket and really
throw the ball downfield long, to let those guys get off press and get
downfield, just because you've got (linebackers) DeMarcus Ware on one
side and (Greg) Ellis on the other."
Bratkowski said he was not limited in his play-calling.
"No, we still called some deep (balls)," Bratkowski said. "We didn't
get the looks that we wanted or the coverage didn't really show itself
that you would like, but we still went ahead and did it -- because we
talked before the game. ... I went over all the things down the field
with him and he said he was fine."
SERIES HISTORY: 20th meeting -- The New York Jets lead the Bengals,
12-7, but the Bengals won the most recent meeting, 38-31, in 2007 at
Paul Brown Stadium. The Jets lead 9-2 at home, including 6-0 at the
Meadowlands. The Jets led 3-2 in five games played at Shea Stadium. They
handed the Bengals their most shocking playoff loss in history. In 1982,
the Bengals posted a 7-2 record in the strike-shortened season, and fans
were envisioning a second straight Super Bowl berth for the defending
AFC champs. But the Jets dominated in a 44-17 win at Riverfront Stadium.
NOTES, QUOTES
--Jets QB Brett Favre, the league's leading passer through Week 5
with a 110.8 rating and the only three-time NFL MVP, has a 3-1 record in
past starts against the Bengals, all while he was with Green Bay. But
the Bengals got the best of Favre in the last meeting. On Oct. 30, 2005,
as they drove to the AFC North title, the Bengals intercepted five Favre
passes in a 21-14 win at Paul Brown Stadium. That's the most
interceptions ever suffered by Favre in a regular-season game. (He once
threw six interceptions in the postseason). But none of the Bengals'
current defensive players were in on the interception feast. CB Deltha O'Neal and LB Odell Thurman each had two picks, and cornerback Tory James had one.
--Carson Palmer remembers the last time the Bengals faced Brett
Favre, who will be starting at quarterback Sunday for the Jets.
"Uh, all I remember is winning. It's been a while since we've had one
of those," Palmer said. "You watch that last drive and I think we were
up by five or six points (seven), and it's one those things where it's
'Uh oh, it's Favre.' You never know. You never know when the game's
over. Fortunately we had some fan interference that saved that win for
us."
Gregory Gall, a 31-year-old at the time from Cincinnati, was arrested
for criminal trespassing when he ran onto the field and stole the ball
out of Favre's hands as Favre dropped back to pass. The aborted play
came at the end of the Bengals' 21-14 victory over the Packers Oct. 30,
2005.
"He was the key," Palmer said of the fan. "I think he should have got
the game ball."
--Coach Marvin Lewis and QB Carson Palmer both made Bengals on-field
debuts against the Jets at the Meadowlands. Lewis coached his first
Bengals game in a preseason game against the Jets on Aug. 10, 2003. The
Jets won 28-13. Palmer made his regular-season debut on Sept. 12, 2004,
also against the Jets. He didn't engineer a victory in his debut; the
Jets won 31-24. But Palmer posted a 105.2 passer rating, completing 18
of 27 passes for 248 yards with two touchdowns and one interception. His
first career touchdown pass was six yards to TB Kenny Watson in the
third quarter.
--Bengals first-year coordinator Mike Zimmer, charged with rebuilding
and molding a young unit, has his defense ranked 19th in the 32-team
league in points and yards allowed per game -- an improvement over 2007.
"You know, we have played some terrific offenses," Zimmer said when
asked what he is pleased about so far. "The Tennessee game, the wind
helped up. Against the Giants, I thought we played well for most of the
game. Dallas, periods of the game, we played very good.
"We're still, in fourth and (4 at Dallas), and the crack toss, and we
have a chance to make the play, and we don't understand the concepts yet
totally. Those are the things that are eating at me right now.
"I have to be careful how much we put in. Every week, I see how much
we have in after game-planning, and I say 'Throw this out, throw this
out' because the guys are so young. ... Quite honestly, I am happy to be
here. I am happy to be coaching these guys, even though we're 0-5. I'd
like to be 5-0. The effort they're giving. Like I told them the other
day, when you're an 0-5 football team, you're typically a bad football
team. We're not a bad football team. I've seen some bad teams. We're not
a bad team. We're just not getting the wins."
BY THE NUMBERS: 14 -- Receptions in five games for Bengals wide
receiver Chad Ocho Cinco (Johnson), who has averaged 80 catches in his
seven previous seasons.
QUOTE TO NOTE: "My ankle's fine, my shoulder's fine, but for those
who don't know why I'm not getting the ball, I have my own little
philosophy on what's going on. And I broke it down like this: Never,
ever, ever, ever go against the monster, because the monster always
wins. Get it? So y'all put that in your own perspective and you'll
understand where I'm coming from and why things are going the way it's
going right now. OK, what else you want to talk about?" -- Bengals WR
Chad Ocho Cinco on Wednesday, in a thinly veiled reference to Bengals
president Mike Brown. Ocho Cinco ruled out coach Marvin Lewis and
quarterback Carson Palmer.
STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL
PLAYER PERSONNEL NOTES
--TB Cedric Benson, who rushed 10 times for 30 yards at Dallas, just
five days after signing with the Bengals as a free agent, will get an
expanded role Sunday at the Jets. Benson said he has focused this week
on learning the pass game so his presence on the field doesn't tip off
the defense that a run play is coming.
--LB Dhani Jones (foot) did not practice Wednesday but is expected
back for the Jets.
--HB Kenny Watson (hamstring) re-signed Tuesday and practiced fully
Wednesday. He practiced fully after having been slowed by a hamstring
injury.
--LB Corey Mays (ankle) did not practice and is out for the Jets. He
is a key special teams player.
--CB Johnathan Joseph (ankle) returned to practice fully for the
first time since spraining his ankle in Week 2 against Tennessee.
--QB Carson Palmer (right elbow) was limited.
--S Dexter Jackson (thumb) was limited in practice after missing four
games because of the injury.
--LT Levi Jones (knee) did not practice.
--DE Frostee Rucker (shoulder) was limited.
--DT Pat Sims (thigh) was limited.
GAME PLAN: The Bengals want to run the ball better than they have all
season, coach Marvin Lewis said Wednesday. The Bengals would like to
limit the amount of time Brett Favre and his receivers have on the
field. They have been poor against the run and expect the Jets to run
hard at them with Thomas Jones.
MATCHUPS TO WATCH: Bengals QB Carson Palmer vs. Jets pass defense --
The Jets are susceptible in the pass game, witness their 31st ranking at
265 yards allowed a game. They are allowing 68.2 percent completions. CB
Darrelle Revis is playing well and has three interceptions. But the rest
of the secondary has been poor, and offenses are picking on rookie CB
Dwight Lowery. New York is getting a solid pass rush with 13 sacks in
four games. LB Bryan Thomas has four and DE Shaun Ellis three. This game
could be the one the Bengals get the ball to Chad Ocho Cinco, who has
just 14 receptions and one touchdown in five games.
Jets RB Thomas Jones vs. Bengals run defense -- New York is faring
only a little better than the Bengals in the rush game. It is ranked
26th and is gaining 3.8 yards a carry, compared to 3.3 for the Bengals.
Thomas Jones is the workhorse, running 67 times for 254 yards (3.8-yard
average) with a long of 16 yards and one touchdown. Though the Bengals'
run defense is better, they have allowed 229, 177 and 198 yards rushing
in three of their five losses. The Bengals are 27th in rush defense at
167.6 yards a game.
INJURY IMPACT:
--CB Johnathan Joseph practiced fully Wednesday, for the first time
since sustaining an ankle sprain in Week 2 against Tennessee. He played
Sunday at Dallas as a backup, and his return helps the pass defense
against Brett Favre and the Jets.
--Of course, all eyes are on Carson Palmer's elbow. He was limited in
practice Wednesday and the decision whether he plays Sunday will be made
later in the week. Ryan Fitzpatrick would start.